Subject	Re: Mike, that happens if you do drastic changes...
Posted by	MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) on January 07, 2004 at 7:15 PM
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In Reply To	Mike, that happens if you do drastic changes... posted by George(boost-solutions.com) on January 07, 2004 at 07:07 PM
Message	I know the difference between piggy back and directly tuning the ecu . The shortest distance between two points is a straight line not going around the world to reach your destination. My friend who tunes with the AEM wants to throw up when he hears about E-manage. There are more effective ways of tuning, easier and cheaper$$$. Do some research on ECU tuning . You use the Zemulator or you can use Z control or tune use the binary file. The tools are out there.
Follow Ups	"Another one bites the dust (Boost Solutions)"- the real - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:16:35 01/07/04 How's the 1000HP evo coming along? - AshsZ 15:24:16 01/07/04 about as well as his Z, Supra,and his trying to import a GTR - Halo Z 15:25:56 01/07/04 Like I said come by for a ride :-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:27:50 01/07/04 man all 3 of you guys sure love to bitch.. (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 15:36:24 01/07/04 buy a Z van boy, or STFU. (n/m) - Halo Z 16:47:35 01/07/04 1hr. and 11mins. and thats the best you could come up with? - MaxBoostTT 17:23:08 01/07/04 Hmm.. Why did you jump in on this to start? - AshsZ 17:29:02 01/07/04 Funny, I could ask you the same thing... - Greg (Dallas) 17:31:30 01/07/04 ditto (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:50:32 01/07/04 the latter.. I felt left out =) - MaxBoostTT 17:39:07 01/07/04 also.. - MaxBoostTT 17:47:06 01/07/04 I have an inbox full of emails from people who mostly lurk, - AshsZ 18:31:15 01/07/04 some of us work and don't live in the parents basement. (n/m) - Halo Z 18:03:27 01/07/04 I work (technically)... - MaxBoostTT 18:17:44 01/07/04 don't remember the skyline thying.. - Halo Z 05:48:28 01/08/04 The exhaust would not clear Z1s chickenfarm road, - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:26:51 01/07/04 Wow, you're just going off on everyone today, eh? LOL (n/m) - AshsZ 15:33:02 01/07/04 sound familiar Ash? (n/m) - Zeus 15:35:03 01/07/04 there have been moments. =) (n/m) - AshsZ 15:55:19 01/07/04 lol...understatement of the year =) (n/m) - Zeus 15:56:13 01/07/04 A tow truck can carry a car down a dirt road can't it? (n/m) - kryptonite729 15:42:55 01/07/04 Kyle, please call me so we can get all the balances taken - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:45:51 01/07/04 my Z made it several times, but then again ash did rub some - Wagz 16:07:52 01/07/04 I have Tein Flexes and a 5" exhaust. Not gonna clear - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:17:08 01/07/04 I have about the same in clearence... No issue with scrubing - John@Z1 16:34:49 01/07/04 John, you are cool, I was talking to Ash:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:47:02 01/07/04 5" ? (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 17:18:36 01/07/04 Peacemaker has 2.5" piping and making 762RWHP right now - AshsZ 17:27:20 01/07/04 That is all cool, but if you go to a 3" twin exhaust, you - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:35:21 01/07/04 Yes, 5"( five inches) OD... (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:28:55 01/07/04 Isnt exhaust measured in ID like electrical pipe? - Stealth021 18:43:09 01/07/04 So which muffler shop sells 5" pipe, dude? My setup is - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:54:32 01/07/04 I already said, a diesel muffler shop. - Stealth021 00:40:45 01/08/04 ooof.. remember that.. :-/ (n/m) - AshsZ 16:17:35 01/07/04 haha... Didn't you rub the front end of your car a little? (n/m) - JonnyZ (DC) 16:23:51 01/07/04 Bah! Rely on its rally car heritage, lol. (n/m) - SooperZ95 16:41:47 01/07/04 Mine is not a rally car! (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:47:59 01/07/04 lol (n/m) - hoss 16:51:09 01/07/04 Hey, Road Race advertises there. Coolio! (n/m) - SactoTodd 15:47:30 01/07/04 Not cool of you to stir shit with another vendor. (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 23:20:22 01/07/04 your "sig" is still too big (n/m) - Zeus 15:25:09 01/07/04 sorry, I was busy replying. It is - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:29:40 01/07/04 cool....good luck clearing this up (n/m) - Zeus 15:31:44 01/07/04 Thank You. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 15:47:52 01/07/04 In the imortal words of Stan Marsh... - BigTDogg (MA) 15:33:14 01/07/04 C: "Towelie, you're the lamest character ever." T: "I know." - hoss 15:41:19 01/07/04 "Wait a minute, that's it" "You remembered the combination?" - BigTDogg (MA) 15:43:52 01/07/04 You'll like this then..... - RAGTPZ(OH) 15:53:15 01/07/04 i have no idea whats going on right now (n/m) - THAyz1 16:40:55 01/07/04 your keyboard sucks. (n/m) - SactoTodd 15:35:50 01/07/04 that or he has fat fingers.. (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 15:37:32 01/07/04 Ok, George its my turn... George plz refund my $200 - kryptonite729 15:41:30 01/07/04 Email. (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 15:45:48 01/07/04 I tried, thanks for your $.02 Kenny - kryptonite729 15:48:06 01/07/04 Please drama queens - stop already. - Kenny 14 psi 15:58:12 01/07/04 *golf clap* (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 16:02:24 01/07/04 I hate to say it Kyle. But Kenny does have a point. - Milo (Sport Z Magazine) 16:02:09 01/07/04 damn ya'll really like to air dirty laundry.. (n/m) - MaxBoostTT 15:47:24 01/07/04 Kyle, - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:56:16 01/07/04 "Business is business, friends are friends." - MaxBoostTT 16:01:21 01/07/04 I agree, I should not have been so nice to Kyle:-) (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:04:27 01/07/04 i warned kevin about him. and lots of stories of him (n/m) - Halo Z 16:38:01 01/07/04 Halo, you are still pissed that I pulled my car from Mike's? (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:12:33 01/07/04 i do recall. mike told you to come and get your POS motor. - Halo Z 18:07:56 01/07/04 I showed up at Mike's and picked it up! Again you are - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:23:11 01/07/04 i'll ask mike today when i see him, i'll show him this post - Halo Z 05:51:30 01/08/04 e-mail not working... - Agent X 15:43:00 01/07/04 george@boostsolutionsinc.net (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 15:58:24 01/07/04 "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" - Agent X 18:16:58 01/07/04 What is your cell again? - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:25:01 01/07/04 Sorry, I'm at work. - Agent X 18:35:31 01/07/04 Re: "Another one bites the dust (Boost Solutions)"- the real - bosco500@adelphia.net 15:43:07 01/07/04 No battle, I am just stating the facts, and copying - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:01:07 01/07/04 Despite the lack of spellcheck, thats one customer - nixit 15:52:08 01/07/04 yup...sound advice (n/m) - Zeus 15:54:07 01/07/04 Nixit, thanks for teh advice! - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:03:17 01/07/04 Hey George ECU Questions???? - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 16:12:03 01/07/04 Jason, it is all in teh tuning! The best case would be - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:20:16 01/07/04 I agree with the E-manage or Super AFC BUT.... - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 16:26:51 01/07/04 I can dyno tune your car, and you will not need any new - Chip(GMS Racing) 16:33:09 01/07/04 We're always looking for more to tune. :) (n/m) - AshsZ 16:53:34 01/07/04 The e-manage leaves a lot to be desired... >> - AshsZ 16:50:13 01/07/04 :-) Probably you do not know that he can use a pressure - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:11:01 01/07/04 Why not just tie right into the ECU and modify the fuel - AshsZ 17:13:52 01/07/04 Damn, thats a good point. - Stealth021 17:23:57 01/07/04 If Jason is in GA, we would tune his car:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:27:57 01/07/04 Come again. How will E-manage help him then?!?! - Stealth021 17:36:05 01/07/04 2nd - kryptonite729 17:37:21 01/07/04 You will get your bill in the mail:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:48:17 01/07/04 e-manage is NOT crap - fourZero 17:43:58 01/07/04 John, he is just trying to be smart:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:49:33 01/07/04 Smarter than you is all I need to be. - Stealth021 17:55:00 01/07/04 Uh - how do you dynotune with no programmable hardware? (n/m) - Kenny 14 psi 22:33:30 01/07/04 Ash does it. - Stealth021 00:43:03 01/08/04 The Zem is programmable hardware. - Kenny 14 psi 01:24:48 01/08/04 How about a question for you. - Stealth021 17:57:55 01/07/04 Boy, you know a lot about nothing. :( - Spongerider :) 18:09:30 01/07/04 I would more precisely call it a unit that leaves a lot - AshsZ 18:06:43 01/07/04 Eric, how is he gonna dyno tune without any hardware? - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:46:12 01/07/04 Maybe you need the explaining done George. - Stealth021 17:49:19 01/07/04 Eric, if you grow up and listen, you will hear that the - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:12:58 01/07/04 e-manage is still confined to 2-dimensional changes.. - AshsZ 18:43:41 01/07/04 By the way, dont you "Custom Burn" chips and sell them? - Stealth021 17:51:15 01/07/04 Yes, we do that all the time, but ALL I am saying is - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:21:03 01/07/04 So how does E-manage help? - Stealth021 18:37:41 01/07/04 Why will Ash hate you? - Stealth021 18:41:24 01/07/04 Do you think JWT hates Ash for copying his code? (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:01:02 01/07/04 Ash did not copy JWT's code. - Stealth021 19:03:32 01/07/04 So you answered your own question then... (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:13:21 01/07/04 So you ARE stealing Ash's idea. Thats all you are good for - Stealth021 19:28:27 01/07/04 Its funny how you make it sound like the only reason I - AshsZ 19:29:42 01/07/04 And, to note, George is hinting that he is copying the Zem. - Stealth021 19:35:25 01/07/04 We are not gonna waste tiem with a Zem.... - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:00:19 01/07/04 He doesn't need it. When we tune a car, I use the ZEM, - AshsZ 19:02:57 01/07/04 So are you getting a Z1 Ashpec chip, or a Zemulator? (n/m) - SactoTodd 17:36:27 01/07/04 Not being wise, but does it matter? - Stealth021 17:41:12 01/07/04 Correct on the ZEM.. It has a lot of other features too.. (n/m) - AshsZ 18:14:50 01/07/04 LOL.. you amaze me - fourZero 17:41:10 01/07/04 Ash's bandwagon left about a year ago, please pay attention. - Stealth021 17:46:29 01/07/04 Well, Jason is not here, but in VA. So whatever you fine - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:26:16 01/07/04 I'm sorry, are you just pulling reasons out of thin air - AshsZ 17:51:09 01/07/04 Again, Ash wins, and with proof. - Stealth021 18:03:01 01/07/04 Hi Ash why don't you install an E-Manage one time before you - Carlos Ramirez 21:06:09 01/07/04 Thanks Carlos! (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 22:40:25 01/07/04 You'll definately want more than just an AFC. - SooperZ95 16:48:20 01/07/04 He has a JWT already, he needs better fuel and timing - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:13:40 01/07/04 You, the retailer, needs to convey that to the customer - SactoTodd 16:14:59 01/07/04 :-) The whole think started when we got the Stillen stuff - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:26:10 01/07/04 Damn george i just read that.... Seems like ur pretty pissed - Jason300zxTT(NoVA) 16:22:33 01/07/04 Yeah, u know how it is:-) - George(boost-solutions.com) 16:44:28 01/07/04 Always at least 2 sides to a story. Takes a lot of time and - zxjpmzx 17:03:53 01/07/04 You lost all credibility as a tuner/builder when you mention - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:52:34 01/07/04 Thank God! - Stealth021 18:59:45 01/07/04 Mike, that happens if you do drastic changes... - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:07:25 01/07/04 Re: Mike, that happens if you do drastic changes... - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 19:15:45 01/07/04 Mike, you are not posting your own personal experience, but - George(boost-solutions.com) 19:53:33 01/07/04 I don't need personal experience to know the difference - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 20:24:17 01/07/04 Mike, I agree with all that, but there are man people that - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:59:59 01/07/04 NOW you say its for stage 3-5 cars. - Stealth021 19:27:04 01/07/04 vote to ban (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:12:18 01/07/04 Just stop giving advice, and we wont have to go through this - Stealth021 20:22:41 01/07/04 Whne did we tune your car? Never! I do not even know you. - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:30:28 01/07/04 Re: You lost all credibility as a tuner/builder when you mention - kuah@splparts.com 20:23:07 01/07/04 Fianlly somebody with EXPERTISE chimes in. Thank you! (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 20:28:34 01/07/04 There are a lot of hi hp cars running carburators too - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 00:57:34 01/08/04 Re: There are a lot of hi hp cars running carburators too - kuah@splparts.com 09:49:34 01/08/04 with Piggy back , you are still beholden to the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 00:02:41 01/09/04 Wow, since I joined tt.net I have NEVER seen vendors dire - Iced Z 19:52:19 01/07/04 2nd>>>>>>>>>>> - zboost 20:00:08 01/07/04 whatever happened to LOTM? - aliaZ 21:09:51 01/07/04 yeah, IL needs to bring that back in a big way. (n/m) - Spee 21:12:32 01/07/04 "SPEEDLAB SUCKS!" - ahhh, when we could all agree on somthng (n/m) - NAZTTy 21:36:07 01/07/04
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